diff --git a/example/glide_computer.cpp b/example/glide_computer.cpp
index 71423c51..6b079cc8 100644
--- a/example/glide_computer.cpp
+++ b/example/glide_computer.cpp
@@ -67,8 +67,8 @@ auto get_waypoints()
   using namespace geographic::literals;
   using namespace mp_units::international::unit_symbols;
   static const std::array waypoints = {
-    waypoint{"EPPR", {54.24772_N, 18.6745_E}, msl_altitude{16. * ft}},   // N54°14'51.8" E18°40'28.2"
-    waypoint{"EPGI", {53.52442_N, 18.84947_E}, msl_altitude{115. * ft}}  // N53°31'27.9" E18°50'58.1"
+    waypoint{"EPPR", {54.24772_N, 18.6745_E}, mean_sea_level + 16. * ft},   // N54°14'51.8" E18°40'28.2"
+    waypoint{"EPGI", {53.52442_N, 18.84947_E}, mean_sea_level + 115. * ft}  // N53°31'27.9" E18°50'58.1"
   };
   return waypoints;
 }
diff --git a/example/unmanned_aerial_vehicle.cpp b/example/unmanned_aerial_vehicle.cpp
index 0e2091ed..036abdbe 100644
--- a/example/unmanned_aerial_vehicle.cpp
+++ b/example/unmanned_aerial_vehicle.cpp
@@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ hae_altitude<M> to_hae(msl_altitude msl, position<long double> pos)
 {
   const auto geoid_undulation =
     isq::height(GeographicLibWhatsMyOffset(pos.lat.number_in(si::degree), pos.lon.number_in(si::degree)) * si::metre);
-  return hae_altitude<M>{msl.absolute() - geoid_undulation};
+  return height_above_ellipsoid<M> + (msl.absolute() - geoid_undulation);
 }
 
 
@@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ struct MP_UNITS_STD_FMT::formatter<hal_altitude> : formatter<hal_altitude::quant
 // **** UAV ****
 
 class unmanned_aerial_vehicle {
-  msl_altitude current_{0 * si::metre};
+  msl_altitude current_ = mean_sea_level + 0 * si::metre;
   msl_altitude launch_ = current_;
 public:
   void take_off(msl_altitude alt) { launch_ = alt; }
@@ -139,7 +139,7 @@ public:
   void current(msl_altitude alt) { current_ = alt; }
   msl_altitude current() const { return current_; }
 
-  hal_altitude hal() const { return hal_altitude{current_ - launch_}; }
+  hal_altitude hal() const { return height_above_launch + (current_ - launch_); }
 };
 
 
@@ -149,11 +149,11 @@ int main()
   using namespace mp_units::international::unit_symbols;
 
   unmanned_aerial_vehicle uav;
-  uav.take_off(msl_altitude{6'000 * ft});
-  uav.current(msl_altitude{10'000 * ft});
+  uav.take_off(mean_sea_level + 6'000 * ft);
+  uav.current(mean_sea_level + 10'000 * ft);
   std::cout << MP_UNITS_STD_FMT::format("hal = {}\n", uav.hal());
 
-  msl_altitude ground_level{123 * m};
+  msl_altitude ground_level = mean_sea_level + 123 * m;
   std::cout << MP_UNITS_STD_FMT::format("agl = {}\n", uav.current() - ground_level);
 
   struct waypoint {
@@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ int main()
     msl_altitude msl_alt;
   };
 
-  waypoint wpt = {"EPPR", {54.24772_N, 18.6745_E}, msl_altitude{16. * ft}};
+  waypoint wpt = {"EPPR", {54.24772_N, 18.6745_E}, mean_sea_level + 16. * ft};
   std::cout << MP_UNITS_STD_FMT::format("{}: {} {}, {:%.2Q %q}, {:%.2Q %q}\n", wpt.name, wpt.pos.lat, wpt.pos.lon,
                                         wpt.msl_alt, to_hae<earth_gravity_model::egm2008_1>(wpt.msl_alt, wpt.pos));
 }
diff --git a/src/core/include/mp-units/bits/quantity_point_concepts.h b/src/core/include/mp-units/bits/quantity_point_concepts.h
index 8c499385..3f89b510 100644
--- a/src/core/include/mp-units/bits/quantity_point_concepts.h
+++ b/src/core/include/mp-units/bits/quantity_point_concepts.h
@@ -179,10 +179,12 @@ concept QuantityPointLike = requires(T qp) {
   requires RepresentationOf<typename quantity_point_like_traits<T>::rep,
                             get_quantity_spec(quantity_point_like_traits<T>::reference).character>;
   requires Quantity<std::remove_cvref_t<decltype(quantity_point_like_traits<T>::quantity_from_origin(qp))>>;
-  requires std::constructible_from<
-    quantity_point<quantity_point_like_traits<T>::reference, quantity_point_like_traits<T>::point_origin,
-                   typename quantity_point_like_traits<T>::rep>,
-    decltype(quantity_point_like_traits<T>::quantity_from_origin(qp))>;
+  {
+    make_quantity_point<quantity_point_like_traits<T>::point_origin>(
+      quantity_point_like_traits<T>::quantity_from_origin(qp))
+  }
+  -> std::same_as<quantity_point<quantity_point_like_traits<T>::reference, quantity_point_like_traits<T>::point_origin,
+                                 typename quantity_point_like_traits<T>::rep>>;
 };
 
 }  // namespace mp_units
diff --git a/src/core/include/mp-units/quantity_point.h b/src/core/include/mp-units/quantity_point.h
index a7143274..d0fc63ff 100644
--- a/src/core/include/mp-units/quantity_point.h
+++ b/src/core/include/mp-units/quantity_point.h
@@ -29,6 +29,10 @@
 
 namespace mp_units {
 
+template<PointOrigin auto PO, Quantity Q>
+  requires ReferenceOf<std::remove_const_t<decltype(Q::reference)>, PO.quantity_spec>
+[[nodiscard]] constexpr quantity_point<Q::reference, PO, typename Q::rep> make_quantity_point(Q&& q);
+
 template<QuantitySpec auto QS>
 struct absolute_point_origin {
   static constexpr QuantitySpec auto quantity_spec = QS;
@@ -37,7 +41,7 @@ struct absolute_point_origin {
 template<QuantityPoint auto QP>
 struct relative_point_origin {
   static constexpr QuantityPoint auto quantity_point = QP;
-  static constexpr QuantitySpec auto quantity_spec = [](){
+  static constexpr QuantitySpec auto quantity_spec = []() {
     // select the strongest of specs
     if constexpr (detail::QuantityKindSpec<std::remove_const_t<decltype(QP.quantity_spec)>>)
       return QP.point_origin.quantity_spec;
@@ -57,11 +61,6 @@ namespace detail {
     return po;
 }
 
-template<QuantityPointLike QP>
-using quantity_point_like_type =
-  quantity_point<quantity_point_like_traits<QP>::reference, quantity_point_like_traits<QP>::point_origin,
-                 typename quantity_point_like_traits<QP>::rep>;
-
 }  // namespace detail
 
 /**
@@ -113,13 +112,6 @@ public:
   quantity_point(const quantity_point&) = default;
   quantity_point(quantity_point&&) = default;
 
-  template<Quantity Q>
-    requires std::constructible_from<quantity_type, Q> &&
-             ReferenceOf<std::remove_const_t<decltype(Q::reference)>, PO.quantity_spec>
-  constexpr explicit quantity_point(Q&& q, decltype(point_origin) = point_origin) : q_(std::forward<Q>(q))
-  {
-  }
-
   template<QuantityPointOf<absolute_point_origin> QP>
     requires std::constructible_from<quantity_type, typename QP::quantity_type>
   // TODO add perfect forwarding
@@ -141,10 +133,10 @@ public:
   template<QuantityPointLike QP>
     requires std::same_as<std::remove_const_t<decltype(quantity_point_like_traits<QP>::point_origin)>,
                           std::remove_const_t<decltype(point_origin)>> &&
-             std::convertible_to<typename detail::quantity_point_like_type<QP>::quantity_type, quantity_type>
-  constexpr explicit quantity_point(const QP& qp) :
-      q_(typename detail::quantity_point_like_type<QP>::quantity_type{
-        quantity_point_like_traits<QP>::quantity_from_origin(qp)})
+             std::convertible_to<
+               quantity<quantity_point_like_traits<QP>::reference, typename quantity_point_like_traits<QP>::rep>,
+               quantity_type>
+  constexpr explicit quantity_point(const QP& qp) : q_(quantity_point_like_traits<QP>::quantity_from_origin(qp))
   {
   }
 
@@ -154,15 +146,12 @@ public:
   template<PointOriginFor<quantity_spec> NewPO>
   [[nodiscard]] constexpr QuantityPointOf<NewPO{}> auto point_from(NewPO origin) const
   {
-    if constexpr (is_same_v<NewPO, std::remove_const_t<decltype(point_origin)>>) {
+    if constexpr (is_same_v<NewPO, std::remove_const_t<decltype(point_origin)>>)
       return *this;
-    } else if constexpr (detail::is_derived_from_specialization_of_absolute_point_origin<NewPO>) {
-      auto q = absolute();
-      return quantity_point<reference, NewPO{}, typename decltype(q)::rep>(std::move(q));
-    } else {
-      auto q = absolute() - origin.quantity_point.absolute();
-      return quantity_point<reference, NewPO{}, typename decltype(q)::rep>(std::move(q));
-    }
+    else if constexpr (detail::is_derived_from_specialization_of_absolute_point_origin<NewPO>)
+      return make_quantity_point<NewPO{}>(absolute());
+    else
+      return make_quantity_point<NewPO{}>(absolute() - origin.quantity_point.absolute());
   }
 
   // data access
@@ -192,7 +181,7 @@ public:
     requires detail::QuantityConvertibleTo<quantity_type, quantity<::mp_units::reference<quantity_spec, U{}>{}, Rep>>
   [[nodiscard]] constexpr quantity_point<::mp_units::reference<quantity_spec, U{}>{}, PO, Rep> operator[](U) const
   {
-    return quantity_point<quantity_spec[U{}], PO, Rep>{*this};
+    return make_quantity_point<PO>(quantity_from_origin()[U{}]);
   }
 
   // member unary operators
@@ -235,6 +224,18 @@ public:
     q_ -= q;
     return *this;
   }
+
+private:
+  template<PointOrigin auto PO2, Quantity Q>
+    requires ReferenceOf<std::remove_const_t<decltype(Q::reference)>, PO2.quantity_spec>
+  friend constexpr quantity_point<Q::reference, PO2, typename Q::rep> make_quantity_point(Q&&);
+
+  template<Quantity Q>
+    requires std::constructible_from<quantity_type, Q> &&
+             ReferenceOf<std::remove_const_t<decltype(Q::reference)>, PO.quantity_spec>
+  constexpr explicit quantity_point(Q&& q) : q_(std::forward<Q>(q))
+  {
+  }
 };
 
 // CTAD
@@ -250,9 +251,7 @@ template<auto R1, auto PO1, typename Rep1, auto R2, typename Rep2>
                                                      const quantity<R2, Rep2>& q)
   requires requires { qp.quantity_from_origin() + q; }
 {
-  auto temp = qp.quantity_from_origin() + q;
-  using q_type = decltype(temp);
-  return quantity_point<q_type::reference, PO1, typename q_type::rep>(std::move(temp));
+  return make_quantity_point<PO1>(qp.quantity_from_origin() + q);
 }
 
 template<auto R1, typename Rep1, auto R2, auto PO2, typename Rep2>
@@ -269,7 +268,7 @@ template<PointOrigin PO, Quantity Q>
   requires ReferenceOf<std::remove_const_t<decltype(Q::reference)>, PO::quantity_spec>
 [[nodiscard]] constexpr quantity_point<Q::reference, PO{}, typename Q::rep> operator+(PO, Q&& q)
 {
-  return quantity_point<Q::reference, PO{}, typename Q::rep>(std::forward<Q>(q));
+  return make_quantity_point<PO{}>(std::forward<Q>(q));
 }
 
 template<Quantity Q, PointOrigin PO>
@@ -286,9 +285,7 @@ template<auto R1, auto PO1, typename Rep1, auto R2, typename Rep2>
                                                      const quantity<R2, Rep2>& q)
   requires requires { qp.quantity_from_origin() - q; }
 {
-  const auto temp = qp.quantity_from_origin() - q;
-  using q_type = decltype(temp);
-  return quantity_point<q_type::reference, PO1, typename q_type::rep>(std::move(temp));
+  return make_quantity_point<PO1>(qp.quantity_from_origin() - q);
 }
 
 template<PointOrigin PO, Quantity Q>
@@ -371,4 +368,12 @@ template<QuantityPoint QP1, QuantityPointOf<QP1::absolute_point_origin> QP2>
     return lhs.absolute() == rhs.absolute();
 }
 
+// make_quantity_point
+template<PointOrigin auto PO, Quantity Q>
+  requires ReferenceOf<std::remove_const_t<decltype(Q::reference)>, PO.quantity_spec>
+[[nodiscard]] constexpr quantity_point<Q::reference, PO, typename Q::rep> make_quantity_point(Q&& q)
+{
+  return quantity_point<Q::reference, PO, typename Q::rep>(std::forward<Q>(q));
+}
+
 }  // namespace mp_units
diff --git a/test/unit_test/static/chrono_test.cpp b/test/unit_test/static/chrono_test.cpp
index 1bab812d..75d87128 100644
--- a/test/unit_test/static/chrono_test.cpp
+++ b/test/unit_test/static/chrono_test.cpp
@@ -40,7 +40,14 @@ template<Unit auto U, typename C, typename Rep = double>
 using time_point = quantity_point<U, chrono_point_origin<C>, Rep>;
 
 static_assert(QuantityLike<std::chrono::seconds>);
+static_assert(!Quantity<std::chrono::seconds>);
+static_assert(!QuantityPoint<std::chrono::seconds>);
+static_assert(!QuantityPointLike<std::chrono::seconds>);
+
 static_assert(QuantityPointLike<sys_seconds>);
+static_assert(!Quantity<sys_seconds>);
+static_assert(!QuantityLike<sys_seconds>);
+static_assert(!QuantityPoint<sys_seconds>);
 
 // construction - same rep type
 static_assert(
@@ -108,10 +115,8 @@ static_assert(quantity{std::chrono::years{1}} == 31556952 * s);
 static_assert(quantity{1s} + 1 * s == 2 * s);
 static_assert(quantity{1s} + 1 * min == 61 * s);
 static_assert(10 * m / quantity{2s} == 5 * (m / s));
-static_assert(quantity_point{sys_seconds{1s}} + 1 * s ==
-              time_point<si::second, std::chrono::system_clock, sys_seconds::rep>{2 * s});
-static_assert(quantity_point{sys_seconds{1s}} + 1 * min ==
-              time_point<si::second, std::chrono::system_clock, sys_seconds::rep>{61 * s});
+static_assert(quantity_point{sys_seconds{1s}} + 1 * s == chrono_point_origin<std::chrono::system_clock> + 2 * s);
+static_assert(quantity_point{sys_seconds{1s}} + 1 * min == chrono_point_origin<std::chrono::system_clock> + 61 * s);
 
 // to_chrono_duration
 static_assert(to_chrono_duration(1 * s) == 1s);
diff --git a/test/unit_test/static/quantity_point_test.cpp b/test/unit_test/static/quantity_point_test.cpp
index f1107273..37c0935f 100644
--- a/test/unit_test/static/quantity_point_test.cpp
+++ b/test/unit_test/static/quantity_point_test.cpp
@@ -45,8 +45,7 @@ inline constexpr struct ground_level : relative_point_origin<mean_sea_level + 42
 inline constexpr struct tower_peak : relative_point_origin<ground_level + 42 * isq::height[m]> {
 } tower_peak;
 
-inline constexpr struct other_ground_level :
-    relative_point_origin<mean_sea_level + 123 * isq::height[m]> {
+inline constexpr struct other_ground_level : relative_point_origin<mean_sea_level + 123 * isq::height[m]> {
 } other_ground_level;
 
 inline constexpr struct other_absolute_level : absolute_point_origin<isq::height> {
@@ -281,22 +280,22 @@ static_assert(!std::convertible_to<int, quantity_point<dimensionless[one], zero,
 // construction from a quantity
 /////////////////////////////////
 
-static_assert(std::constructible_from<quantity_point<si::metre, mean_sea_level>, quantity<si::metre>>);
+static_assert(!std::constructible_from<quantity_point<si::metre, mean_sea_level>, quantity<si::metre>>);
 static_assert(!std::convertible_to<quantity<si::metre>, quantity_point<si::metre, mean_sea_level>>);
 
-static_assert(std::constructible_from<quantity_point<isq::height[m], mean_sea_level>, quantity<isq::height[m]>>);
+static_assert(!std::constructible_from<quantity_point<isq::height[m], mean_sea_level>, quantity<isq::height[m]>>);
 static_assert(!std::convertible_to<quantity<isq::height[m]>, quantity_point<isq::height[m], mean_sea_level>>);
 
-static_assert(std::constructible_from<quantity_point<isq::height[m], mean_sea_level>, quantity<si::metre>>);
+static_assert(!std::constructible_from<quantity_point<isq::height[m], mean_sea_level>, quantity<si::metre>>);
 static_assert(!std::convertible_to<quantity<si::metre>, quantity_point<isq::height[m], mean_sea_level>>);
 
-static_assert(std::constructible_from<quantity_point<si::metre, mean_sea_level>, quantity<isq::height[m]>>);
+static_assert(!std::constructible_from<quantity_point<si::metre, mean_sea_level>, quantity<isq::height[m]>>);
 static_assert(!std::convertible_to<quantity<isq::height[m]>, quantity_point<si::metre, mean_sea_level>>);
 
-static_assert(std::constructible_from<quantity_point<isq::height[m], mean_sea_level>, quantity<special_height[m]>>);
+static_assert(!std::constructible_from<quantity_point<isq::height[m], mean_sea_level>, quantity<special_height[m]>>);
 static_assert(!std::convertible_to<quantity<special_height[m]>, quantity_point<isq::height[m], mean_sea_level>>);
 
-static_assert(std::constructible_from<quantity_point<dimensionless[one], zero>, quantity<dimensionless[one]>>);
+static_assert(!std::constructible_from<quantity_point<dimensionless[one], zero>, quantity<dimensionless[one]>>);
 static_assert(!std::convertible_to<quantity<dimensionless[one]>, quantity_point<dimensionless[one], zero>>);
 
 // different dimensions